164: Making Big Shifts in Business & Beyond with Kristen Ley | Tanya Dalton
Kristen Ley podcast interview on The Intentional Advantage
March 3, 2020   |   Episode #:

164: Making Big Shifts in Business & Beyond with Kristen Ley

In This Episode:

You can’t pour from an empty cup. We’ve talked about this idea a few times on the show, and it’s so true. I couldn’t wait to bring on my friend, Kristen Ley, founder of Thimblepress, to chat about celebrating little wins, taking care of your wellbeing, and so much more. After dealing with a massive setback in her business, Kristen knew she had to make some huge changes. We dive into everything from getting back to her North Star (and why she decided to start mentoring and consulting other businesses) to gaining back her mental and physical health. She shares why you need to learn to say “no” to the things that don’t serve yourself or your purpose and why she’s such a big believer in having a morning routine to set your day up for success.

Show Transcript:

The Big Idea

Redefine success on your own terms.

Questions I Answer

  • How do I start a business on my terms?
  • How can I avoid burnout?
  • What do I do if I am burned out?
  • Should I have a morning routine?

Key Topics in the Show

  • Detoxing from the lifestyle of doing everything for everybody

  • Why she decided to scale back her product-based business and get more involved in consulting and mentorship

  • Kristen’s thoughts on creating a morning routine to set yourself up for success

  • Her number one rule for maintaining harmony in her professional and personal life

  • Remembering to celebrate your wins, big or small

Resources and Links

Show Transcript

This is Productivity Paradox with Tanya Dalton, a podcast focused on using productivity not just to do more but to achieve what’s truly important to you, and this season is all about you, You 2.0. To learn more about yourself, take Tanya’s 

free quiz and discover your own productivity style at Tanyadalton.com. 

And now get ready. Here’s your host, Tanya Dalton. 

Tanya: 

Hello. Hello everyone. Welcome to Productivity Paradox. I’m your host, 

Tanya Dalton, and this is episode 164, and have I got a show for you today. As you know, all season long, we’re talking about that topic of You 2.0, making some small tweaks, some changes to really get you to that ideal version of you. And when I was thinking about this season and curating the episodes and who I wanted as my guests, the very first person who came to mind was my friend Kristen Ley because she truly 

embodies the entire idea behind You 2.0. She has been through a rough couple of years and now is getting to the other side of that. And through this process, she’s done a lot of reinvention of herself, she’s done a lot of shifting and changing and I thought she would be ideal to talk to us about making big shifts in business and in your personal life. 

Plus, Kristen is just an all-around amazing person who I cannot wait to introduce you to. So, let me give you a little background on Kristen and then we’ll dive into this episode because I’m really excited for you to listen in. Kristen Ley is the founder, owner, and creative director of Thimblepress. Founded in a garage back in 2012, Thimblepress creates unique products that help elevate and showcase your personal style, whether that’s on your desk, in your hands, or on your walls. They focus on products to help create memories, bring a smile to your face, and make you feel unique and special. Every product is designed by Kristen 

and is filled with loads of love and color, lots and lots of color. 

Thimblepress is sold in over 1,500 retail shops internationally and our products are also available online. She also runs kristenley.com, where she focuses her efforts on mentoring and creative consulting with individuals and brands. One of her biggest passions is encouraging others to see their potential and chase after their dreams. In Kristen’s free time, she enjoys painting, traveling, perusing the local flea markets, and hanging out with her two goldendoodles, Willow and Henry. Kristen, I am so excited to have you on the show and to really introduce you to my listeners because you and I, we’ve been through a lot of things together. 

Kristen: 

We have. 

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Tanya: 

We have. We were just talking before we started hitting record about, we have definitely cried together. We have hugged, we have laughed. We’ve gone through a thousand different emotions together and so have just been so incredibly proud of getting to be alongside of you and watching you make these big shifts, not only in your personal life but in your business. It’s amazing, so I’m so excited to share with my listeners a little bit of your story. So, as I mentioned, you’ve made some really big shifts in your life and you’ve essentially rebuilt your business, a very successful business that you kind of tore down and have been rebuilding from the ground up. Can you walk us through that a little bit? 

Kristen: 

Absolutely. It sounds so easy to say that. I wish it would have been that easy doing it. 

Tanya 

So true. 

Kristen: 

So I started Thimblepress in 2012. And if you’re not familiar with Thimblepress, we‘re a lifestyle brand that creates products to celebrate your every day. We’re the inventors of Push-Pop Confetti. And so for me, I built my brand on wanting other people to experience more joy in 

their lives, and I really built it on that solid foundation and really lived at, but we grew really, really fast. We were in Nordstrom, and Anthropologie, and Urban Outfitters. We were in over 1,500 retailers across the world. And for a small company, a one-woman show, I had to learn to grow really fast. And so I ended up having a team of 20 that’s part-time and full-time. We had two huge buildings. We were growing and becoming what everyone in the world defines as success and it was exhilarating. It was fun. I was traveling all the time. But I was also on the verge of just a massive spin-out, and I was doing too much, and it all kind of came crashing down in 2000 ... What year was that? ’17. 

Tanya: 

Kristen: 

Two weeks after we just launched in every single Target across the country, 

Tanya: 

Which we celebrated together and we were so excited, right? 

Kristen: 

Right. I found out I had been hacked and I lost a ton of money. But it wasn’t what the money did that really made the impact. It was what happened to my mindset after that. I had always lived with this philosophy of arms wide open, palms up, abundance and gratitude, and I went into living in this closed fist, I’m miserable, why did this happen to me, I will not receive anymore, money is important. And it is important, but my money mindset, that was completely shifted. And it changed everything. I got really depressed and I had to work my way out of that. And that was what I call the great fall, the beginning of the end of the beginning of the end of the beginning. 

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Tanya: 

I love that we can laugh about it now, but it was hard, right? 

Kristen: 

And it was devastating. 

Tanya: 

You had to walk your way out of it. Again, that’s another thing that sounds, oh, that sounds easy, but that’s hard. That’s tough when you’re in that dark place. 

Kristen: 

It was so hard. I’m dating someone now, but for eight years in my business, I was single. And also, when you’re in those hard, unsung moments of life, when you’re in those deep trenches and you’ve built something of what the world says is success, it’s really hard if you’re struggling to break those walls of pride down, to break those walls of shame down and admit that you’re going through something. And so a lot of it I internalized, I kept to myself, and I hold-up, and I didn’t want to leave my house. 

I was so miserable and it took a lot of prayer, a lot of morning meditation, a lot of what do I do with my life moments? Months upon months, upon months of it, for me to start putting in a plan of action of what am I going to do with my life. Because I’m sure if I would have been mentally healthier I could have probably skated past that and been fine. 

But because I had been spinning out for so long, I had stopped taking care of myself. I had stopped really going to prayer and relying on God. I was relying on myself. I had stopped taking care of my body. I was getting sick all the time because all I was doing was working and trying to please everybody else. 

Tanya: 

And you say that you were in a relationship for eight years, but you were, you were in a relationship with Thimblepress. It was a ver

Kristen: 

100%. 

Tanya: 

You were married to your job, in a way. And, you love Thimblepress. [crosstalk 00:07:44] Let’s make not the mistake that that was something that you felt terrible about at the time or it was like, oh, I got to work you. You love what you do. I think you are truly one of the few people ! know who exudes your brand. Who you are, it’s so apparent. And so I think that people think, “Well, Kristen’s this bubbly. She has this colorful confetti kind of life. And so life is easy.” And I think that’s so hard, right? When you’re going through all that darkness you are going through to maintain that and because you were burning the candle at not just both 

ends, but in the middle, a quarter of the way down. 

Kristen: 

No. I was the candle into the fire. 

Tanya: 

It’s so true. So true. 

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Kristen: 

Yeah, it was a crazy time. And, that was the thing, I am such a joyful person and that my brand is about joy and about celebration. But in those moments, I could not be that for anyone. I couldn’t even be that for myself. And yes, I was in a relationship with Thimblepress and I love Thimblepress. But it was not a healthy relationship. I was giving my everything to the business. And what I’ve learned coming out of it is that Thave to put myself first as a leader. I have to put my health first, I have to put my family first, the things that are my joy, is my cherishes. And I love Thimblepress, but it can’t be my only love and I have to take care of myself. But, man, it came with a lot of shifts, a lot of hard decisions that I had to make. 

And I think the hardest one was letting my team go and deciding that I was going to fight for Thimblepress and start back over. And, I kept hearing God saying, “Why did you start this business? You need to get back to why you started it.” 

Tanya 

To your North star. 

Kristen: 

Get back to it. Because I had lost track of it. I was trying to achieve so much and be a success to everyone else but myself. I was not treating myself well. I was not treating myself with love. I was showing up for 

everyone else. Shoot, I was doing so much. I was showing up for everybody, probably halfway, because I was showing it for so many people. And, that comes from … I’m an Enneagram two, and I know you’ve had podcasts with Jen where you talked about the Enneagram. And, if you’re a two, you can sometimes go into that people-pleaser mode. And so, I really had to work on myself, and work myself out, and 

realize that I don’t have to be there for everyone all the time. Just like that quote is, you can definitely do everything you want in life. You just can’t do it all at once. And, that was what I had to realize. 

Tanya: 

That’s not an easy realization to get to, let’s be honest. Especially, when you are turning and burning and you’re running and running. And sometimes it’s really hard to slow down and we feel guilty taking care of ourselves. And when everybody else in the world is looking at you as this success, it is so hard to say, “You know what guys? I’m really struggling, I’m really having a hard time.” And I think you did such a beautiful job of that though, really taking the time to take a good look at yourself. What do I really want? And I feel like you changed your definition of success. Would you agree with that? 

Kristen: 

100%. I think for the longest time I viewed success as what everyone else said success was for me, what the world defines as successful. It’s so easy to get wrapped up in that, especially with Instagram and social media constantly blaring everyone’s perfect highlight reel. It’s so easy to say, well, this is what success is without knowing the struggles and unsung moments behind all of that. And so for me, I realized success is 

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just being happy. Success is creating joy not only in my customer’s lives but in my life, and slowing down. Everything you talk about in your book, 

everything. Like, what? JOMO is the jam. That is where I do find joy, is saying no to the things that don’t serve me or my purpose, and saying yes to the things that really matter. And it’s so important for people to grasp that. But it’s hard when you’re wrapped up in going, going, going. It’s hard to slow down. You almost have to have a detox from that lifestyle. 

Tanya; 

That’s true. I totally agree, what you’re saying. And for you, you actually had an experience that kind of like hit you in the face, right? That it was like, okay, I’ve got to shift things around with having the hack and everything else, and that really kind of brought everything to light it seemed like. And it really was … I think a lot of people might’ve blamed the universe. They might’ve been like, “Oh, bad things always happen to me.” But you took the time to really do some internal reflection, and as 

you said a minute ago, you had to get back to your North star, you had to get back to your why, why you started Thimblepress, why was this really important to you? And then, is that what you use to help make your decisions moving forward or can you lead us a little bit through that? 

Kristen: 

So during that really hard time, I was spending every morning in prayer and meditation. I was writing 17-page letters to God, just begging him to walk me where I needed to be. And through that, my faith became stronger. I really leaned into what I felt like God was leading me. I surrendered completely. I said, “I don’t want to be miserable anymore because I love what I do, but it is not worth feeling like this.” And I just kept praying, like change my mindset, like let this be different. Let me seek and find joy through you. And, I remember, I was writing a prayer one morning and I just felt completely interrupted by a voice. It was like my internal thinking, but it was a complete interruption and it was this laundry list of things I felt the Lord was calling me to do. And that was really hard. 

So I started with taking these steps of, I let my team go. I got rid of a building, I analyzed all my expenses in and out of my business, from little things, from copy paper and electricity to big things like sales reps and trade shows. And I just went through it all and said, what do we need? What do we not need? And that was hard because I had to let go of some things that maybe I really wanted, but I didn’t need, that kind of whole thing. And I analyzed, okay, what do we do our best in 

Thimblepress? What is our winners? We need to celebrate those and that’s what we need to bring to people. We need to get rid of the things that aren’t serving people well, that aren’t selling well. That was hard. But it’s been over, gosh, now it’s been two and a half years, yeah, two years of doing this. So it’s not come overnight, this transformation. 

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But in all of that, I really tried to rediscover my joy and like where it is. And what I love to do is I love encouraging people. I love talking. I love having deep conversations like the conversation we’re having right now. 

ng to know people. I love helping people. I mean, I’m totally an Enneagram two, I love helping people fix their [crosstalk 00:15:02] 

Tanya: 

You are totally an Enneagram. You’re right. 

Kristen: 

So, I thought, what do I love the most? And so out of all that struggle, kristenley.com which is where I do monthly mentoring, and consulting, and I have in person workshops, that all was born out of that time of prayer and not knowing. And, it has been such a beautiful thing to watch happen because it’s just been this organic growth and it’s out of me wanting to serve others. And, it’s been something really neat that I’ve cultivated, and I’ve been excited about, and it’s enabled me to then let go of things that weren’t serving me and Thimblepress with a little more ease. 

Tanya: 

Yes, You did the Pareto Principle, right? What are the vital few things that make the biggest impact? What are the things that really make a difference in my business and make a difference in wholam? And you paired that with a lot of internal reflection of, who is it I truly want to be? What is it I’m wanting to do in this world? And, you marry those together. By really focusing in on fewer things, you were able to do better work, right? And you’re able to dive further into it. And I feel that by tying it into who you truly are at your heart, who you are and what really sets your soul on fire, you have just flourished. I mean, it is night and day where you are right now. And it’s been such a joy for me to watch unfold because it’s really been amazing to watch this transformation. 

Kristen: 

Well, and it’s not only been a mental transformation, but it’s been a physical transformation. And, when I started Thimblepress, again, I gave it my all. I literally was laser-focused, like all I could see, tunnel vision, Thimblepress. I gained 80 pounds starting my business, not just starting it but over the years. And it’s because of that. And I’m not saying me gaining weight was a terrible thing. I’m saying what it did for me is it slowed me down. I wasn’t as mentally sharp because I wasn’t putting food in my body that was healing it. I was putting food in my body that harmed it. I was getting sick all the time. And so, taking the time to really evaluate my physical health was a huge component of this change and growth because I think I needed to prove to myself that I still had it in me, that I could take care of not only my mental health but my physical. 

So, you saw me walk through the journey of the pain of the mental anguish that all that caused, then you saw me coming through on the other year working through the pain of the physical health, walking through to change that. So you saw how long it took me because I didn’t 

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want to try to take it all on at once. That’s hard. Shifting your entire life is so hard. I ended up losing 50 pounds. Then I fell in love and I gained 20 back. I blame you, Bill. 

Tanya: 

That happens. 

Kristen: 

I blame your love, Bill. He listens to every podcast I speak on. He is such an amazing guy and so I just want to shout out to him right now. 

Tanya: 

I’m so pleased for you because you deserve love. You deserve love. 

Kristen: 

Thank you. And I think for the longest time I didn’t think I did. I think I was so consumed with tunnel vision for my brand and I wasn’t giving myself any love. So, if I’m not giving myself any love, why would I be 

open to love? 

Tanya: 

Yes. Oh, yes. I love that. I want to explore this a little bit more, but first I want to give a quick break for today’s sponsor. 

Tanya; 

Okay. I want to be honest with you. I originally had a sponsor for this episode and then Kristen and I got to talking and we ended up finishing up the entire episode and we were talking about how much we both love coaching. We love working with people, helping them grow their businesses, getting them excited about what they’re doing in life, whether that’s personal life or business. And so, she and I decided that instead of doing a sponsor, let’s use this time right now to talk a little bit about doing a giveaway. Kristen and I are going to do a combined 30 minute coaching call with one of you who are listening here today. So, 

the way you can enter is really, really easy. Simply snap a screenshot of this episode and tell us your favorite takeaway, post it on Instagram Stories, and be sure to tag Kristen and myself, and that’s it. 

I am really excited about this giveaway because I love the idea of Kristen and I working together to coach one of you, but the one-on-one coaching is something that I don’t really do. I used to do that all of the time. I now do most of my coaching through my liveWELL Method, and through masterminds, and other things that I have going on, but I don’t do one-on one-coaching, so this is a unique opportunity here for you. I am really excited about it because I know you’re getting a lot out of today’s episode and it will be easy to come up with a takeaway. All right, let’s get back to talking to Kristen. 

Tanya: 

So Kristen, as you said, it really was this idea of you had to love yourself, you have to take care of yourself. And, I think, we touched on this earlier, that we feel guilty taking care of ourselves, but really when we’re in a good, healthy place, we’re able to make these mindset shifts. We’re able to make the physical shifts we need to make and we’re really able to see 

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the life that not only that we want, but we truly deserve. You agree with that? 

Kristen: 

A 100%. And, I think when you talk about you can’t give from an empty well, and I continually trying to give from a total empty, depleted well. When you do that, you don’t give up your full self because you’re not even your full self because you haven’t taken time to give to yourself and to repair. Our bodies are like machines and if we’re constantly running them, we’re running them into the ground. We have to give ourselves an oil check. We’ve got to get a car wash. We’ve got to take care of ourselves. But I didn’t understand that. I was like, no. It wasn’t even that I was like, no, it’s just I didn’t even think about it. It was just everybody else’s needs were always more important than my own, and everybody else’s needs are still important to me, but I know that to be my best and to give my best, I have to love myself and take care of myself. 

Tanya: 

Oh, amen to that. I absolutely agree. And, I love what you said there about you have to check-in. So, it’s this idea of doing some self reflection. We talked about reflection earlier in this season of the podcast, where reflection is really good. It’s a chance to stop, assess, see what’s going well, see what’s not going well, where do I need to pivot or shift? And I think that taking the time to do that really makes a difference in how you move forward. Would you say that taking this time has really changed the way you approach your role as a boss and a creative entrepreneur? 

Kristen: 

100%, no doubt. 

Tanya: 

Yeah, I can totally see it and how intentional I feel you are with your business because it really is, does this product really fit what I want to do? Does it really fit my why? And then, do I really want to do it? And right now as we’re recording this, you’re getting ready to go to Africa, which I know is going to be an amazing event in your life that’s going to change you. And now, you’re going to be able to step away from your business for a few weeks and allow that trip to happen and to really have your eyes opened in those ways too. So, there’s so many good things that are happening for you because you’ve made this shift. Because you’ve made the shift in your business and in your personal life, it’s allowing all these good things to happen. 

Kristen: 

Oh, I believe it. I believe it. And I also believe there’s something so beautiful about taking the morning to reflect, and to meditate, and to pray, whatever your routine is, but to have a morning routine to set yourself up. You talk about this, to set yourself up for your day, to give yourself that time regardless if you’re a mom or not, you’re so walking into a day, you’re walking into a room of kids, you’re walking into a business, you’re walking into something. And so, shifting your mindset in 

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that morning to process what’s going to happen, has been what’s been so important for me and to remind myself every morning to make the decisions for my why, to make the decisions that best serve me so that I can then serve others. 

Tanya: 

Well, you’re nourishing your soul and you’re taking care of the things that are important to you, especially in your morning routine, for you, with your prayer time and everything else, and that really allows you to fill up for the day, right? 

Kristen: 

Oh, yeah. 

Tanya: 

As you’re moving through your day, you’ve given yourself that chance to fill your tank. I’ve talked before on the show about one of my very favorite parenting books is, How to Really Love Your Child by Dr. Ross Campbell. And he talks about the idea that our kids have these love tanks and that we need to fill up their tanks. When they’re acting up, when they’re having a hard time a lot of times it’s because their tank is low. We need to fill up our kids’ love tanks. We need to fill up other people’s love tanks. We need to fill up our own as well because when it gets low, that’s when we get grumpy, that’s when we lose sight of what we want. And so I love that you are so intentional with that with your mornings. 

Kristen: 

Well, and I’ll say this, when I wasn’t in this intentional space and I was just kind of going with the day, when I was spinning out, when I was stressed out, and don’t get me wrong, I still get stressed out. And we were talking before this, I was like, “I’m about to leave for Africa. I have some anxiety, blah, blah, blah.” Don’t get me wrong. I get stressed out still, but it’s just different. 

But before that, I used to hear people that would talk about their morning routines, would talk about stuff that we’re talking about now and I would roll my eyes and I’d be like, they just don’t know. And I’m here to tell that person listening who is struggling, who is overworked, who is burnt out, I hear you, I see you, I have been there. We’ve all been there. You are not alone. We’re not joking what we’re saying. This is real life. This really happened to me. The things Tanya went really happened to her and she’s passionate about teaching others so they don’t have to experience that. Heed this advice. I wish I would have lessened because it has changed my world. When I stopped, turned around, and began to look inwardly and focus on how I can serve others by serving myself, it changed everything and making the best decisions for me. And so if you’re that person, just know we’ve been there. And, you can continue rolling your eyes though, I promise. 

Tanya: 

You’re right though, because people do or they get really caught up in this idea of, well that worked for you, but it won’t work for me. And 

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here’s the thing, nothing that we ever talk about on the show and nothing that you’re talking about is like, you have to do exactly what we say or what we’re doing. We’re just saying, take the time. Give yourself that reflection. Be intentional. Give yourself some time in the morning to get some wins, whatever that looks like to you. Do things that nourish you. 

And that’s really how you begin to make those shifts into the life that you want, not the life that Kristen wants or the life that I want, but the life that’s really meant for you. That path that is designed for you is unique to you. So really taking that time, just like Kristen talked about, to allow it to unfold. And I love what you said about the fact that you didn’t try to do it all at once. Because, oh my gosh, talk about overwhelm, right? It’s overwhelming to try to get in physical shape, and getting mental shape, and get your business in shape, and all of that. We need to 

give ourselves the grace to allow that to happen. 

Kristen: 

Absolutely. 

Tanya: 

And I think you did such a great job of that, Kristen, you really 

Kristen: 

Well, it’s a constant journey too. It’s not like it’s going to just heal itself overnight. Healing and walking into a lighter space is a life’s journey. We’re always on it. And I think after I kind of began moving in that direction, that’s why those morning check-ins are so important. That’s why it’s so important to sit back and reevaluate at the end of the week, or at the end of the month, or whenever you want to check-in with yourself. But for a long time, I was living for someone else’s version of success and I wasn’t living for my own. I thought I was, but I wasn’t. 1 was putting my sock into what everyone else thought of me and what everyone else wanted for me. And some of it, they may not have even wanted, it’s just what perceived and that was so damaging to everything I was doing because I wasn’t really listening to me. And, that was hard. 

Tanya 

It is. It’s tough to make these … Even though they may feel like, oh, it’s a small tweak or it may be a big tweak. All those things are difficult and they take that intention. They take the intentionality that I am going to do this. And really telling yourself that you are ready and willing to make those shifts and those change, it is 100% mindset. And I watched you go through it. I watched you struggle, and I love what you said there too, where you talked about how it’s not this magic thing where all of a sudden now no more stress for Kristen because she’s got it all figured out. 

Kristen: 

Right. 

Tanya: 

We wish that’s how it was, right? 

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Kristen: 

Yeah, I wish. That would be amazing 

Tanya: 

It’s constant ebb and flow. So I want to ask you one last question. I would love to know, what do you say is now your number one rule for maintaining that harmony between your personal and professional life? 

Kristen: 

When I feel tired, and this is funny, I was actually thinking about that other day, when I feel tired or I feel worn down by work, instead of pushing through, I give myself the grace to go take a nap or go sit down and meditate and pray. I used to always just continue to push through and that wasn’t actually serving me because then I wasn’t working from a level with good intentions. I was exhausted, or I was mentally drained, or I was sad, or something else was going on. And so now when I feel that, I listened to myself and I go home, origo take a walk, or I do something that serves my overall wellness and health. Sometimes I just need to take a nap. 

Tanya: 

Sometimes we all need to take a nap. 

Kristen: 

Exactly. 

Tanya: 

There’s a lot to be said for that reset. Even in the middle of the day, I think you’re right, we think to ourselves, I’ve got a lot going on so I can’t take a break or on, that must be nice to have that luxury of taking a break. But if you’re not taking breaks, if you’re not actively resting from 

time to time, you’re wearing yourself out and you’re not really doing your best work anyways. 

Kristen: 

And, at the end of the day, all the things we think we need to do in a day, guess what? Most of it can wait. And I remember someone said to me once, there’s rarely a paper emergency. And you know what? 

Tanya: 

Llove it. 

Kristen: 

There rarely is. I’m not a doctor, no one’s going to die because I’m taking a nap. We’re going to be okay. 

Tanya; 

And if you’re a doctor, you’re probably going to be able to save more lives because you took a nap. 

Kristen: 

Yeah. I think it should be required that you rest when you’re a doctor. 

Tanya: 

That’s true, they do. They require doctors and pilots because people’s lives are on the line. But we don’t think we need to rest, even though those people are mandated to do it. So, it’s true. 

Kristen: 

And, the world’s only going to get busier and busier and we’re going to continue to be clouded with visuals and advertising, and it’s going to 

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continue to happen and get greater and greater. So that’s why it’s so important that you’re listening to this right now, that you’re taking the time for yourself. Even investing in listening to this is taking time for 

And so for that, you should pat yourself on the back, celebrate your little wins. That’s what it’s about. We’ve got to remember to celebrate. 

Tanya; 

I love it. And I think that is a perfect place to end, especially with all that you do with Thimblepress and keristenley.com, it really is about finding the joy and celebrating. So, Kristen, thank you so much for being on the show. I loved getting back to this conversation and sharing you with my listeners. 

Kristen: 

I know it was so much fun. 

Tanya: 

All right. I told you she was incredible, didn’t l? And she really brought it. I felt like what she shared today was so honest, and raw, and real and ! really feel like her story is so inspiring because she’s been through an awful lot in the past few years. And now seeing her through the other side, I’ve been alongside of her throughout this entire journey, but to see her get to this ideal version of where it is she wants to be is so rewarding for me as her cheerleader. 

I hope that you found Kristen just as inspiring as I did. And I do want to remind you to enter the giveaway. If you found today’s episode inspirational, you’re going to love doing a coaching call with Kristen and I together. And it’s really, really easy to enter. I’m going to remind you one more time. All you need to do is take a quick screenshot of this podcast 

episode. Tell us your favorite takeaway, posted on Instagram Stories, and be sure to tag Kristen and I both. Okay. That’s all you have to do to enter. I will be choosing a winner on March 10th, 2020. So if you’re listening to this before March 10th, make sure to enter the giveaway. I love hearing what you guys take away from these episodes. And speaking of episodes, next week, we’ll continue talking about You 2.0 because we’ll be talking about your guide to getting unstuck. So, be sure to listen in next week and don’t forget to enter that giveaway. All right. Until next time, have a beautiful and productive week. 

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