The Big Idea
Your mindset is everything.
Questions I Answer
- How do I show up for myself?
- What can I do about negative thoughts?
- What if I don’t know what I’m doing?
Key Topics in the Show
Dre Baldwin’s tips to work on your game
How to make time – with zero excuses!
Showing up for yourself
Automatic Negative Thoughts (ANTS)
How to overcome ANTS in your life
Resources and Links
- Connect with Dre:
- Dre’s website
- Listen to his podcast, Work On Your Game with Dre Baldwin.
This is The Intentional Advantage podcast with your host, Tanya Dalton,
entrepreneur best-selling author, nationally recognized productivity expert, and a
mom of two. On Season 16, Tanya is taking real to another level, sharing more of her
story and opinions, and engaging in conscious conversations to start bringing more
women together. Are you ready? Here’s your host, Tanya Dalton.
Hello, Hello, Everyone. Welcome to the Intentional Advantage podcast. I’m your host,
Tanya Dalton, and this is Episode 203. Today I have a fabulous guest in store for you.
I’m really excited because as you know, all season long, we’ve been having these
conscious conversations, really thinking about how we are thinking. I’ve got Dre
Baldwin on the show, and I wanted to have Dre on the show because he talks about
a lot of the same things that you’ve heard me talk about, but he talks about them in
a very different way.
And I really think it’s beneficial when we have these conversations with different
people, with different viewpoints or different ways of explaining things, because
then we get this holistic view of how we want to move forward. So I think you’re
really going to enjoy meeting Dre. Let me tell you a little bit about him before we
dive into the show.
So Dre Baldwin, in just five years, went from his high school’s team bench to a
nine-year professional basketball career; went from the bench to go pro. Now at the
same time, Dre also built a content publishing empire. He’s been blogging since
2005, publishing videos to YouTube since 2006, and Dre has published over 7,000
videos with his content being viewed over 73 million times.
His daily Work On Your Game podcast has over 3 million listeners. This guy does a lot;
he has a lot to share. He’s given four TED talks and he’s authored 27 books. So let me
introduce you to Dre.
[Tanya:] Dre, we just walked through your bio, or I could say that we waded through
it because you have a lot of things that you’ve done. It’s super impressive. And you
didn’t even include the fact that you had over 1500 podcast episodes, which is an
insane amount. So in a world where I hear a thousand excuses from people who
want to start a podcast or want to have a YouTube channel and they never seem to
have the time, how do you do it? How do you make time in your day to do these
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[Dre:] The biggest thing for me, Tanya, is, and this is something that I tell people all
the time when they’re thinking about getting into podcasting, or they want to write
a book or they want to start a blog or a YouTube channel, or now, what is it now,
Tik-Toking; whatever it is, is that some people will tell you to get into it because it’s
for SEO purposes and they’ll help build the weights and get you known on the
[Dre:] What I tell people from a different perspective is that you should be publishing
only if you have something to say that you can’t not say. And for me, that’s really
where it came from. There was a lot of things that I just really wanted to get out into
the world and that’s why I publish as often as I do.
[Dre:] Because there things that I want to put out, to be able to say it the way that I
want to say it. So that’s really what gets me going. It is not really so much that I had
to push myself or force myself to do it. It’s in me. So it comes out, and that’s just how
[Tanya:] Yeah. I love that. That’s flipping on its head the ‘I have to’ to ‘I get to’.
[Tanya:] Right? You get to share your message with the world. You get to connect
with your followers and fans. You, you get to have the opportunity to share what you
think is important with everybody else rather than, ‘Oh gosh, I have to do a podcast
episode or I have to–.’ It’s a hundred percent about mindset, right?
[Dre:] Absolutely. And when you have an end and you really have something that you
want to say to the world, you’re not worried about how you’re coming across. You’re
not worried. You don’t have that self-consciousness. You’re not concerned with if
someone’s going to be critical of you or laugh at you or have something negative to
say about it or disagree with you because it’s something that you really want to put
out into the world. And the right people will find it and accept it.
[Tanya:] Yeah, and quite frankly, we’ve talked about this, this season. You’re always
going to have haters. You’re always going to have people who are naysayers, who
don’t believe in you. So you have to feel strongly about your message. You have to,
you have to truly believe in it and buy in on the difference it can make. Don’t you
agree with that?
[Dre:] Yeah, absolutely. If you don’t have anybody, what do you want to call them a
hater or a detractor or someone who’s just disagreeing with what you’re saying then,
either not enough people have heard what you have to say, or you’re not saying
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anything. You’re just trying to play defense and not be so bland that you don’t offend
[Dre:] But the problem with trying to not offend anybody is that you also don’t
appeal to anyone. So you’re not helping anyone. You’re not getting through
anybody’s filters. And it’s probably not helping you either, because you’re not saying
anything that you haven’t even heard. So nobody’s benefiting from that. If you’re not
willing to just go out there and put out there what you really want to put into the
[Tanya:] It’s true. It’s true. But here’s the thing too. It’s not just about, ‘Oh, I’d like to do
this.’ You really, you put the action behind it. I know some of the best advice you say
came from an eighth-grader when you were in eighth grade named Brandon, and
he gave you some tips on your not-so-great basketball game. And that was going to
be your introduction to this idea of skills plus mental game: that’s how you get to
success, right? It really is. It’s not enough just to think about it, you got to get the
[Dre:] Yes. And the first thing that I did was, you know, being that I was this below
average basketball player in middle school, I just asked the best player that I knew,
‘Hey, how can I get better?’ And he said, well, first of all, you got to change your
mentality. He didn’t explain it so articulately, but he explained to me, I needed to
change my mentality because I was playing like I was scared. And I was scared, and
that’s why I would always mess up. And then he said on top of not being scared, you
also need some skill. So you don’t just think that it’s all mindset, you still have to have
[Dre:] So when I put those two things together over the next 20-plus years, that’s
when this whole philosophy came together. So yes, the mindset matters, but the
ability also matters. As they say, “Skills pay the bills”. So you have to be able to do it,
and you have to be willing to show it.
[Tanya:] Yeah. I love the quote that you have in the book where you say there’s only
one thing in life that works: People. Strategies, don’t work. Tips, tactics, tools, hacks,
all the things that people are like, ‘Can I get a new hack? Can I get a, you know, can I
get some kind of life hack?’ They don’t work. It’s really you, that has to do the work.
And I know that you even talk about in the book; when people ask you about how
long do I have to practice to get great at dribbling? And you say five years, they’re
like, ‘Whoa, are you sure?’
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[Tanya:] So let’s talk about that a little bit; about how you need to show up for
[Dre:] Yeah. When it comes to the skill and doing the work, in order to get to the level
that you want to get, like you mentioned in my book, I used to tell basketball players
that. And then it’s even, it’s actually not even five years. It’s how long do you plan on
being good? Because once you become good at dribbling a basketball, it’s not like
you can say, ‘Okay, I’m good, like Stephan Curry. Or Michael Jordan or LeBron James.
[Dre:] They didn’t just one day become good and everyone said, he’s the best player.
And they said, ‘Okay, I’m the best. I don’t have to practice ever again. ‘ They still have
to keep practicing in order to maintain their skill. So once you get to a certain level,
now you have to stay there. And then if you’re in a competitive field and you get to a
high level of doing anything; now, all your competitors, all the people who are trying
to get to where you’re at, even if they’re not directly competing with you, they’re all
looking at you because you’re the one on top.
[Dre:] So now they’re going to start deconstructing and breaking down and trying to
figure out what you did to get there. And they’re gonna start copying what you’re
doing. And so now you have basically you’re training your competition just by being
as good as you are. You’re going to be visible. So now how do you stay ahead of
[Dre:] So that’s when the serious work actually begins for the professional. It’s not
when you get in the door, it’s after you’re in the door. What do you do to stay at that
spot? Because everybody’s going to be coming for you. Whether they’re, again, just
trying to match up with you and be equal to you, now you’re not unique anymore. Or
to try to knock you off your spot, like in the sports world where it’s a zero sum game.
Everybody can’t win.
[Tanya:] Yes. I think it’s Jill Ellis, who’s the former US Women’s National Soccer Team
coach, who says, ‘Mountaintops are small and the air is thin.’ We’re not meant to just
dwell there. We have to go back down the mountain and climb back up again. And
again, and again. You don’t just sit and admire the summit for years on end. You
have to keep working on it.
[Tanya:] And I think that’s one of the places where sometimes people go, ‘Oh my
gosh, it’s so much work or I’m not motivated.’ That’s one of the excuses. But you
don’t have to be excited or motivated to show up. You just need to show up. In fact,
you talk about this idea that no matter what industry you’re in or your experience
level, that when you stop wanting to work on your game, the game is over.
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[Tanya:] So what would you say? What would you recommend for business owners,
entrepreneurs, and other leaders to keep working on their game so that they can
keep having success and they can feel good, showing up every day?
[Dre:] Most important thing for being a professional is, that’s the thing that you just
mentioned that I’ve said, people really have to understand that being professional is
not about you making money or having a certain job title or a certain number of
followers or any of the trappings that come with the success of being a professional.
It’s about showing up every single day and doing that job because you’re being
[Dre:] When you’re looked at as a professional, a doctor, a podcast, or a teacher, even
a parent–that’s a profession that you have; even if you’re not being paid, you have to
show up and do that job because you’re being depended on by somebody for that.
And that’s the reason why you have value is because people depend on you. The
things that we depend on the most are the things that we’re most willing to pay for
because we know they’re going to be there every time we call on them.
[Dre:] That’s really what makes a person a professional in the truest sense. And an
amateur, for example, by contrast, they can look to motivation. They can look to
inspiration and excitement and feeling like it because sometimes they’re not going
to feel like it; sometimes you won’t be motivated and inspired and that’s all right.
Because as an amateur, nobody’s paying you, nobody’s expecting anything of you.
[Dre:] Maybe people will be pleasantly surprised if you show up. But if you don’t,
nobody’s going to hold your feet to the fire because nobody’s made a commitment
to you. But as a professional, there’s a commitment that’s been made to you. You
have got to show up and deliver. And one of the things that I tell, especially athletes
that want to come up, and even someone who’s trying to get to where somebody
like yourself is, Tanya; or someone like people in your audience. They’re trying to get
to where you are right now.
[Dre:] They have to treat their work as a profession, even before they’re getting paid
for it. Even before they have reached that mountaintop. You have to work like a
professional, even before you’ve got there because that’s the only way you’re going
to get there. Because who you’re competing against, people who are already in this
spot, they’re already professionals. They already have all the resources. They already
have a full-time commitment to it.
[Dre:] You might not have all that yet, but in order to get to where they are, you’re
going to have to figure out how to make that work. That is part of the hustle of
getting from where you are from that bottom of the mountain like you said, Jill Ellis
said, to the top of that mountain. You have to have that commitment. And that’s a
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mental thing. When the mental is in that right space, then you will figure out how to
make the physical work or you’ll do what you need to do to make the physical work.
But it starts with the mindset. Then it moves into that [action].
[Tanya:] I couldn’t agree with you more. I think that’s the difference between CEOs
and middle management or entrepreneurs and hobbyists. It’s a hundred percent
that mental mindset of really deciding who you want to be and how you want to
show up. And I feel like you pose a really great, great question. You say, when is the
last time you defended yourself? The way you defend your favorite athlete or favorite
musician or star? So many people are fans of other people and they’re not a fan of
themselves. Why do you think that is?
[Dre:] Oh, so many reasons. And that’s something that I’ve thought of. I came to the
idea to write about that when I was no being a former player, I was watching the
NBA finals and I’ll be on Twitter. And I’ll say something about a certain player on a
certain team and, you know, all the people who are the fans of that player. If I say
something that’s even a little bit negative, they’ll just try to jump on you for saying
something. I’m like, Man, when’s the last time you defended yourself, the way you’re
defending LeBron James?
[Dre:] Little bronzy, he’s never even heard of you. But you’re on Twitter arguing with
people that you don’t even know, to defend him? He doesn’t, he’s not defending you.
Or when did you–are you putting that same energy into yourself? And it’s
something that a lot of people don’t really want to. It’s something that causes a lot of
people to feel a little bit, I guess, sheepish or a little bit embarrassed when they really
think about it.
[Dre:] Think of the way that you look at that person. You look at them to be
successful, as number one. If they aren’t successful or if they fail, you feel a little bit
disappointed with the fact that they haven’t gotten that outcome. You almost get
mad. I remember I was watching the Miami Heat when LeBron was playing in Miami
and they lost an NBA championship the first year he was there. I was like getting
annoyed with LeBron, like, man, why aren’t you doing this? Why aren’t you doing
[Dre:] And I caught myself thinking that. And this is the way that we look at someone
when we are a big fan of them. And then I ask people, think of that, the way that you
look at that person you like, and then ask yourself, how often do you hold yourself to
that same standard? Do you expect yourself to win the same way? I mean, if you pay
for tickets to the Beyonce concert, you know what to expect in a performance. How
often do you expect the same kind of performance from yourself?
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[Dre:] And when she wins the Grammy award and you’re excited and cheering,
when’s the last time you cheered for yourself the same way? That personal
responsibility, that comes with power. If you want power and you want to influence
in life, you have to take the responsibility that comes with it. Many people don’t want
the responsibility. Therefore they are unqualified for the power.
[Tanya:] Mm. Yeah. I love that. The pressure is really a privilege. It really is. To have
that sort of pressure to be good. And it does, it can drive you. But I think so often, you
know, what holds us back is what we see in the mirror is what we think everybody
else wants from us. And you say this, you know, what we see in the mirror is a vision
that others put there. What do you mean by that?
[Dre:] We go through our whole lives. First of all, as babies, we just demand what we
want. If you want something to eat or you need your diaper to be changed or just
want attention, the baby only knows one way to communicate. It’s just cry and
scream and make a fuss until somebody somehow gives us what we want. You have
to figure it out, the baby can’t even tell you. But then as we start to understand
language, as we get a little bit older, by the age of two, I guess, what to we are able
to understand and all of a sudden we’re socialized.
[Dre:] And we’re told you have to accept a no. Or this is not what you’re supposed to
do. I mean, we get told no, no, no, no, whether directly or indirectly, in so many
different ways. And as we grow up, by the time we’re into our teens, how many times
have we been told no? How many times have you been told you can’t do this or
you’re supposed to do that, or this is the way you’re supposed to be.
[Dre:] Whether, again, you’ve been told directly or indirectly, by the time we get to
adulthood, we have this picture of ourselves that has been given to us. It’s not
something that we created. Most of the time it has been given to us by the people
that we were raised around, the people who we respect, the people we listen to, the
people who are our influences. And a lot of us go into life; we start off life, at least in
early adult years or teen years, living the life that we think we’re supposed to live.
And unfortunately, many people never get out of that life. They never step out of
living a life that they think they’re supposed to.
[Dre:] Somebody can be 45 years old living a life that they think they’re supposed to
live. Nowadays many of us are able to break out of it with the help of people like
yourself, who have shows like this, and people who can write books, and people who
can get on social media and kind of break through that mentality that many people
have. Now, there’s a lot more opportunity for people to figure that out now than
there was even 20 years ago when the content landscape changed.
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[Dre:] And so that’s us. So I think to answer your question, I think it’s just the
socialization that we all get. And it’s really just based on the environment that you
come up in, what you come up thinking. And even though we’re all wired differently,
we’re looking up to these influences as kids, because we don’t have the power to do
things for ourselves. And these people are the successes. These are the people
paying the bills. These are the people with power. They obviously must know what
they’re talking about, we assume. And this is how we end up thinking in ways that
may not be us. It’s really somebody else. But we come to think that it’s us because
we don’t know any alternatives.
[Tanya:] Yeah. We feel like we have to explain ourselves to other people quite a bit,
[Dre:] Absolutely. And, especially when we are doing something that isn’t normally
accepted; f you’re doing something that the people around you haven’t done before.
So if you’re looking to become an entrepreneur, but nobody in your family has been
an entrepreneur, they’re kind of looking at you funny, especially if it doesn’t
immediately take off when you start. Or even if you wanted to go to college and
nobody in your family is going to college, or you’re going to begin a podcast, or are
you going to be a YouTuber or you’re going to write books, or you’re going to be a
[Dre:] If nobody’s done it before, people are kind of looking at you crazy. Like, ‘What
are you talking about doing that? How are you going to do it? When are you going
to become successful? Why aren’t you rich yet?’ So these are the things that people
will ask you because you haven’t, you haven’t gotten a result and they don’t know
anything about that process.
[Dre:] If you’re not in an environment of people who understand it and you can
bounce ideas off them and let them know when you’re having a hard time, then
sometimes we end up killing our own dreams in our own heads before we even get
started. But again, the great thing about the world that we’re in today, and I think it’s
going to become even better as we move forward, is that everything is
[Dre:] As far as people publishing themselves and content, and putting their voice
out there to the world. So it’s much easier for someone who’s, let’s say 15 or 16 years
old right now, as opposed to you and me, Tanya, when we were growing up. We
didn’t have these communities, but nowadays there’s plenty of opportunities for
somebody to find those communities, where you can locate those people who are
doing the things that you want to do, or even get your mind open to something that
you weren’t even thinking was a possibility. But then you see, Oh, there’s a thousand
people doing this. Maybe I can do it too.
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[Tanya:] We talk a lot about the negativities with social media. And it’s, you know,
people talking down about that all the time, but there are some really great things.
The fact that you can find your people and your people don’t have to be people in
your house or next door to you, or even in the same town or, or city. That’s a pretty
amazing thing because it is hard when you step out of line when you are doing
something different than what everybody else around you is doing.
[Tanya:] And I like how you talk about the difference between listening and hearing.
And I know it can be hard to avoid letting some of these negative thoughts sink into
us. So how do you avoid the hearing and the listening? Like which one do we want
to do? Do we want to listen, do we want to hear, what do you think?
[Dre:] Well, we want to do both. I mean, as a, as a human being, you want to, you
definitely want to exercise your ability to hear. But first Let me tell you the difference
between the two. Hearing is when you recognize that a sound occurred. Listening is
when you allow that sound or whatever it was to get into your brain and kind of get
into your conscious and then maybe eventually your subconscious if you marinate
on that thought often enough.
[Dre:] So we do want the ability to hear because if you’re crossing the street and
there’s a truck coming, it’s beeping the horn at you. You probably want to know
about that. Or if someone’s calling your phone, someone’s calling your phone or you
have a kid and the kid’s crying in the middle of the night and you’re sleeping. You
probably want to be able to hear it. There’s nobody else to take care of the kids. So
yes, hearing does matter.
[Dre:] Listening is a choice, hearing is something that kind of happens automatically.
As long as your listening system is working, then you’re going to hear sounds.
Listening is what you’re actually paying attention to, how you’re filtering everything
else out. And you’re allowing that to creep into your mind. So when you hear
something negative, for example, from the outside world, no matter who it is, maybe
it’s even from yourself.
[Dre:] You have a choice as to whether or not you’re going to listen to it. Are you
going to continue to turn that thought over and over in your mind? And the more
you play around with it, eventually, it creeps into your subconscious, which means
those are the thoughts that are going on in your mind 85% of the time. You don’t
even know that they’re actually occurring. Or can you hear it and say, ‘Okay, is this
useful for me?’ Yes, or no, this is not useful. If it’s not useful, throw it out, forget about
it, replace it with something positive and then keep going.
[Dre:] So the difference between hearing and listening, again, is the choice as to
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going to get rid of it. And the human brain is an automatic deletion device that
automatically deletes things all the time. Both of us can be paying attention to a
thousand other things right now, besides each other, but the brain automatically
filters all that stuff out. As far as the things that we hear, we filter things out all the
time. So you just have to choose what are you going to filter out? And what do you
not want to filter out? The brain will automatically do it, but you have to give it the
instructions and then it will follow exactly what you’ve told it to do.
[Tanya:] It’s The intentionality behind it, right? It’s being intentional with what you
choose to listen to and what you choose to let go. I like that because you know, in
the last few episodes last few weeks, we’ve been talking about limiting beliefs. We’ve
been talking about biases and how our subconscious brain likes to have these, you
know, kind of continual tapes running that a lot of times, they’re not really very
positive. And you talk about having an ANT extermination and getting rid of the ants.
A-N-T-S, can you define what that means? The A-N-T-S to my listeners? And what
has helped you overcome some of the ANTS in your own life?
[Dre:] Yes. The ANT stands for Automatic Negative Thought. So automatic negative
thoughts are, as you just referred to; that’s the subconscious thought pattern that is
going on in our minds. And what I read is that 85% of the thoughts that we have are
unconscious and habitual, meaning we’re thinking them all the time, but we’re not
even aware of those thoughts. So they’re automatic. In other words, they’re
conditioned within us.
[Dre:] One thing that I tell people sometimes when I give presentations is that
mental conditioning is similar to physical conditioning. So in a sport like basketball,
we do conditioning workouts where we sprint up and down the court and do all
these different types of drills that are all designed to get us as fatigued as possible
during practice. So that ostensibly, when we get in the game, we don’t feel the
[Dre:] What people don’t really understand about physical conditioning, is that it’s
mental as well as physical conditioning. The purpose is not that you don’t feel any
fatigue. It’s just a matter of when you do feel fatigued, how long do you allow it to
affect you before you can go full speed again? Mentally is the exact same way. Being
properly, mentally conditioned or well-conditioned, let’s just say, doesn’t mean that
you don’t have bad days or that things don’t happen or that you don’t get annoyed
or that nobody can let you down. It’s just a matter of, how long do you allow that to
affect you before you can move on?
[Dre:] So the Automatic Negative Thoughts, the more of them you have, that’s just a
reflection of poor mental conditioning. You’re allowing those automatic negative
thoughts to happen; something happens, some stimulus happens from the outside,
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and automatically, negative thoughts start to come your way. When you catch
yourself in an automatic negative thought, and this is when you get that
intentionality like you talked about Tanya; that’s when you can catch it and say,
‘Okay, is this helping me? Or is this something I can get rid of?
[Dre:] So you’re basically firing that habit. That automatic negative thought is a
habitual thought. You’re telling that habit that it doesn’t work here anymore. You’re
getting rid of it. And this is something that you need to do with your habits all the
[Tanya:] You’re getting cut from the team.
[Dre:] Exactly. You’re cutting it from the team. You use a better analogy than I did. So
that’s what you need to be doing on a consistent basis, is catching those thoughts,
those automatic thoughts, those habitual thoughts, which are most of our thoughts.
And then you can decide, is this helping me? If yes, then it gets to say; if not, then it
has to go. Or maybe there’s a chance that you can rehabilitate that thought and
change it around in a way that can help you.
[Dre:] But you do need to be making that decision on a consistent basis because our
habits are basically the designers of our lives. It’s not the things we consciously do,
it’s the things that we unconsciously do that make up more of our lives than the stuff
that we think we are controlling our lives with.
[Tanya:] Dre, you’re speaking my language. I love it because really it’s so true. This
whole, you know, the idea that we have so much of these subconscious thoughts
that are dictating, not just what we’re doing, but how we’re thinking. And when we
don’t stop and really take an intentional look at them, and choose how we think and
choose to condition our mind, that’s when we’re going through life on Autopilot.
[Tanya:] That’s when we’re not truly living or playing in the game, we could say, to
play on your sports analogies. It really is when we’re being a spectator, watching
everybody else living instead of living our own life. So I, I truly love the way that you
bring in sports and how all of that works, because a lot of us have grown up with
sports and we’re used to those the way that things work with that. And when we
start talking about the mind, it’s this kind of unknown, we don’t think a lot about
how our brains work. And so I love how you bring all of that together.
[Tanya:] So as we close out the show, if you could give my listeners one piece of
advice in moving forward and really capturing success and not just welling on the
mountaintop, but finding the fortitude to keep going up the mountain top, what
would that be?
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[Dre:] So going into the new year, we know that people like us, those of you who are
listening, we all set goals for the new year. And we actually follow through on our
goals and do something with them, I’m going to assume. And if you listen to this
show, you are also probably understanding and willing to do the work in order to get
to those goals.
[Dre:] It doesn’t mean you’re going to hit all of them, but you’re willing to do the
work. You’re not going to come up short because you didn’t try. And most people in
life who, again, listen to shows like this and are successful and forward-thinking. We
got these two parts now, things that you want to do, and the work that you’re going
to have to do to get there, at least the work you think you’re going to have to do to
[Dre:] The question that many people never ask themselves is in order for me to do
this work and to get these outcomes is who do I need to be? What type of person do
I need to be? In other words, how do I need to approach life? How do I need to show
up on a day-to-day basis? What is my posture going to be? And I don’t mean
standing up with your chest out and your shoulders back, though that can be part of
it. I mean, your emotional posture, your mental posture.
[Dre:] How do you want people to feel when they come across you? What kind of
energy do you want to have when you step into a room? How do you want to
change the chemistry of a room, just because you walked into it? That question, who
do I need to be is, as far as I’m concerned, the key to success.
[Dre:] Because when you nail down who you need to be as a person, then there are
actions that automatically come with it. Because if you say I’m going to be a
podcaster who is consistent, where my audience knows exactly what they’re going
to get from me, the actions automatically come with that. ‘Is that okay? I’m going to
have to publish this many times every week. I’m going to have to be this consistent
and making sure everything gets sent to the RSS feed hosts. I’m going to have to
make sure I have my artwork in place. I’m going to make sure I have my guests all
lined up. I’m going to make sure I’m doing my research and I have my software in
place.’ There are actions that come with the being.
[Dre:] So when you decide who you’re going to be as a person, there are certain
actions that automatically follow. And if you are true about that being, when you’re
serious about that being, all you have to do is ask yourself, ‘Okay, if I’m this person,
what does this person do?’ If I’m a basketball player, what’s a basketball player do?
They probably go to the gym. They probably practice basketball. They probably have
to drink extra water. They’re probably going to need some basketball sneakers. There
are certain things that come with it. You go through those actions.
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[Dre:] You do the being first, then you do the actions. Then the results come from
that. Now this does not mean just because you say you’re something that
automatically everything’s going to work out. Again it’s about being, which is
automatically followed by doing. Because you are going to take whatever that being
is, and do the actions that come with it. And you can do a simple Google search and
find out what that is, what goes along with it. You probably have a solid idea. But
when that being is in place, then the doing follows, then the results.
[Dre:] A lot of us in life only do steps two and three. We just work, work, work, and
hope that we can get the result we want. But when you put that first step in, the
being part, the doing is a lot easier, and then the results naturally flow from there.
[Tanya:] I couldn’t agree more. The being is so important. I love what you talked
about today on the show, Dre. Where can my listeners find you?
[Dre:] Well, I’m everywhere on the internet.
[Tanya:] Yeah, he is everywhere. Literally. It may be easier to say, where are you not?
[Dre:] Yeah, the only place I’m not as TikTok. I think that’s the only one most people
know that I’m not on. But my homepage is dreallday.com. That’s my website. I’m on
every social media platform. So whichever one, you like. Instagram, I’m probably the
most active on stories all the time. So on Instagram, I’m on @DreBaldwin, and then
any other one that you like, I actually post on every platform every single day. So
whatever you like, you can go there.
[Dre:] Again, dreallday.com is my homepage. If you want to read my articles, that
website is workonmygame.com. You can just sign up and get my email articles;
they’re free. And I said, I’m not gonna give you too many things because you
probably won’t remember them all.
[Tanya:] We’ll put them in the show notes. Thanks so much, Dre, for coming on the
show today. This was great.
[Dre:] Of course, thank you for having me.
[Tanya:] I really hope that you enjoy today’s interview as much as I did. Dre brings
such incredible energy to his interviews. And that’s how he is all the time. Anytime
you see him in videos or online, he brings the energy and he shows up, which is a lot
of what he talked about there. So I’ll go ahead and put how you can connect with
Dre in my show notes.
But before we sign off for today, I wanted to let you know about something exciting
that’s happening in January. So just coming up around the corner, many of you have
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been emailing and DM-ing me and asking me, are you bringing the intentional CEO
program back? And the good news is, I am. But it is going to be all-new, a very
I am really excited about how we are revamping and really re-imagining the entire
program. So here’s what I would love from you. If you are a business owner or an
entrepreneur, and you’re wondering why your business has stalled, why you’re not
scaling up or how you can scale up, I want you to send me an email.
Hello@tonyadalton.com or just reply to the email you get when you get the podcast
emails. You can just hit reply to that. And I want to hear from you. What you would
like to see in this program as I’m revamping re-imagining and just literally tearing
things out by the roots and redoing it all? I want to hear what you are interested in
because the program will be launching in January. And I want to design it
specifically for you. The frustrations you’re experiencing, the stumbling blocks you’re
So send me an email, firstname.lastname@example.org, or just hit reply to your podcast email
that you get from me this week. All right?
I want to encourage you as you move forward into this week. I want you to think
about the conversation that Dre and I had about who you’re showing up for and
being a fan of yourself. And if you are starting to realize, ‘You know what? I feel like
I’m a fan of a lot of people, but I’ve not been a fan of myself for a while.’ I want you to
stop. And I want you to think about what you can do to change that because I want
you to be a fan of you. Truly, that Is the intentional advantage.